that he wants a big deal on the table. what we've got with the republicans, again, is that they are -- willing to end medicare as we know it, and want to slash programs at the expense of the middle class and working families, and small business owners, and protect millionaires and billionaires, and, again, democrats are willing to put all of our sacred cows on the table, really be responsible and held accountable for that responsibility and republicans want to protect millionaires. >> so if there were a grand bargain and republicans said we will put raising taxes on the top 1% or 2% on the table as well, could you support potentially a means testing of medicare as the president came out for? >> what the president has said and democrats have said is that we need to protect benefits nap we don't need to be slashing benefits at the expense of middle class folks, of seniors, of children, and that's what i'm going to continue to back him up on. i want to make sure that we solve this problem in a bag way. >> big way. >> sounds l